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Sunday, May 26, 2024

ST-type versus LT-type tires: Which are “best” for RVs? – Part 1

 

ST-type versus LT-type tires: Which are “best” for RVs? This question is a real “hot button” topic on a number of RV forums and blogs. People ask this question because they want a “better” or alternate selection of brands, or they want to improve the durability of their tires.

The answers given seem to range from, “Sure, why not” to “Absolutely not, never do it.” Some will even offer that they think you are breaking some law if you make any change from the type, size, load range or cold inflation from the original equipment (OE) tire information shown on the Certification Label.

As we all should know by now, answers about tires are never simple and straightforward, and changing tires is definitely one of the more involved answers.

First off, I am not a lawyer but an Engineer. As such, I form opinions based on data and facts. So, here is the answer based on my 45 years of experience as a Tire Design Engineer.

Yes, you may be able to change tires. If you do make a change, there are some things you MUST do to ensure that any change you make will actually improve your probability of having better tire durability.

Steps to take before changing tires

This post offers an outline of the steps you need to take before you make any changes. I will try and include each step and the points of data you need to collect and evaluate. If you skip a step you may end up with a less durable tire selection—which could lead to tire failure, RV damage and even an accident.

First, we need to be sure that everyone understands that the “type” of tires we are talking about have the letters “P”, “ST” or “LT” in front of the dimensions numbers. “P” stands for Passenger, “ST” stands for Special Trailer, and “LT” stands for Light Truck. If your wheel size is 14, 15 or 16 and does not have P or ST or LT in front of the size numbers, then it is probably a European Metric tire.

If you have passenger-type tires, you need to know that the load capacity marked on the tire sidewall of that type MUST be reduced by 10% based on tire industry standards. There are not many RVs being delivered with P-type tires except for very small trailers such as “teardrop” or similar-size trailers.

 



 

Be sure you’re using correct table

ST- and LT-type tires have their own load and inflation charts, so be sure you are following the correct table. We need to be careful here as many times you will see a post on an RV forum where the person does not include the “type” letter in their post.

Finally, we have European tires, which look similar to U.S.-type tires. They have different load and inflation tables and even have both passenger- and commercial-type tires. I will cover the application of “Euro-Metric” size and type tires in a future post.

Special care is needed when choosing tires, as mixing up the type can result in tire failure due to improper inflation or load.

Before we start

Before we start, you need to consider that the most conservative approach is to make no change and to simply use the tire construction (bias or radial), type (ST or LT), size, load range and inflation, as specified on the Certification Label and specification documents. This represents the RV manufacturer’s recommendation based on a number of assumptions as well as some legal regulations the RV manufacturer must follow, plus, in many or some cases, a desire on the manufacturer’s part to keep their costs as low as possible.

Here are the steps to take

So, if you still want to move forward, here are the steps you need to take:

1. You need to know the actual load on each tire. This is important because (A) we will be basing some decisions on the tire loading, and (B) it is possible that there is a significant unbalance in the tire loading which may be the cause of poor tire durability. With sufficient unbalance, it may be impossible to provide a tire selection that would lower the probability of having problems.

To learn the actual individual tire loads, you need to either find a company such as RVSafety Education or an agency that has individual scales, or to follow the steps outlined on worksheets such as this one. I have heard some people say that they have been able to get the individual tire loads from their state police or state DOT. RV event conventions run by Escapees or FMCA also offer the service of individual tire weighing. While learning the load on each tire is best, an alternative is to get individual axle loading and assume that one end of each axle is supporting 52% of the total load. This is just an approximation, but is better than nothing.

Make sure no tire is loaded more than maximum load number on sidewall

2. Knowing the ACTUAL or calculated LOAD on each tire, you need to confirm that no single tire is loaded more than the maximum load number molded on the tire sidewall. This is an absolute rule. If any tire is overloaded, you should not move the trailer until you either change the load or change the tire.

3. Assuming no tire is overloaded, we want to make sure that all tires on an axle are inflated to the same inflation. This means the inflation psi required for the tire with the most load is the inflation psi for all tires on that axle. For multi-axle trailers, you can lower the internal tire structural shear forces (the forces trying to tear the tire apart) by running the inflation molded on the tire sidewall. Sometimes this is stated as the Max PSI and other times it is stated as the PSI for the max load. For our purposes, we will consider this the proper cold inflation you should always run.

4. We should have “headroom” or “reserve load” or “safety margin” on the tire loading. I suggest 15%. However, I know that for many trailers, 15% extra capacity above the actual load is very hard to do. That is especially true since some RV manufacturers manage to so under-size the tires that even when the trailer is empty they may not have 15% margin.

5. If you don’t have at least a 10% margin, I would strongly suggest you need to consider changing tires to something with more load capacity when inflated to the sidewall PSI.

OK, so you have some homework to do.

I will have more in Part 2 next week.

 

 

 

 


Wednesday, May 8, 2024

Why and how to take care of your tire valve cores

 

Tire valve cores are critical components to retain air in your tires.

Here are the components of a standard “snap-in” rubber valve. On the left is the rubber body of the valve stem. In the center is a standard valve core (I have a paper clip holding the valve open). On the right is the basic rubber valve cap.

 





Untold billions of these “snap-in” valves have been used for many decades in almost every passenger vehicle, light truck and RV trailer since the ’50s. They are cheap and usually work at holding the air in the tire. Normally, they were replaced whenever a new set of tires was applied to the vehicle, so the life span of this type of valve was only a few years.

Parts of the valve core

One feature of the valve core is visible in the above picture. The air is let in or out when the center pin is depressed and the “valve” portion, where the paper-clip is, is opened. The small red sieve is the gasket that sealed the valve core in the body of the stem. The valve core can leak, as seen in the below picture.


 

 

 

 

 

 

I read the questions in a number of RV forums, on what valve stem to use with an external TPMS sensor. This post will cover the “bolt-in” metal valve stem.

This picture shows two problems with cheap “snap-in” rubber stems. One problem is its flexibility, and the other is the fact that rubber gets old and can crack, which can lead to a leak. A standard 65 psi max “snap-in” rubber valve stem is very flexible. The weight of a tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS) sensor can cause vibration of the rubber stem and potentially a stem failure.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The addition of an external TPMS sensor can, in some cases, accelerate the cracking due to the extra weight out on the end of the stem.

Here is a rubber stem with a TPMS sensor. You can see the mark left on the wheel from the rubber stem bending.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some people think the 80 psi max “high pressure” HP-600 rubber valve stem is OK to use with external TPMS sensors, but you can see the HP-600 is also flexible.

Rubber stem can fail with TPMS installed

Here is proof that an HP rubber stem can fail when a TPMS sensor is installed.

Leasking HP stem  video

 

This valve stem failure resulted in a tire failure.

In my opinion, staying with any “snap-in” type rubber stem is false economy, given the metal bolt-in stems only cost $3 to $5 each. Not all tire stores will have the bolt-in metal valve stems in stock, so check first. If they don’t have them, you can get bolt-in stems at AutoZone, O’Reilly’s, Advance Auto Parts, NAPA, or most any auto parts store or even on Amazon.

They are easy to install, too. Don’t let the service center tell you installing metal stems is a lot of work.  Watch and you will see.   HERE

 

Rubber snap-in stems

On standard “rubber snap-in” stems, like the TR413, if you look down the hole you can see the end of the brass part of the stem.

 


 

 

 

 

 

 These have been used for decades on hundreds of millions of tires. These can be installed by hand using a “puller” that stretches the rubber. That makes the diameter of the stem small enough to “snap” into place in the wheel hole. The “puller” in the picture is the tool with multiple notches that allows leverage to be used to generate the force to “pull” the rubber stem into the hole in the wheel.


 

 

 


 Once installed, the wheel “pinches” the rubber part of the stem to seal the air in. 

High pressure stems

Next, we have the “high pressure” stems, such as the HP-500.

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Diameter shown in the picture is for the the standard hole of 0.453" This is an industry standard so don't try to find some at 0.500". 


Bolt-in stem

Now, when we look at a “bolt-in” stem, like this TR416s, we see the location in the wheel hole at the arrows. We can also see the much larger brass body (nickel-plated in this piece) that goes inside the air chamber and expands to a broad base. This type of stem needs to be installed through the wheel hole with the rubber grommet sealing the air. An external washer is used and the nut is to be tightened to specification to prevent air loss.

Here is the metal part of the bolt-in stem without the rubber gasket. The arrows point to where the wheel would end up.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here are a couple pages from the U.S. Tire & Rim Association yearbook, aka TRA, which publishes the “interchange and fitment” specs so all tire companies and valve manufacturers know what dimensions are required. This is the book where all the Load & Inflation tables come from and might be considered the Tire Engineer’s “Bible”. It is used by tire engineers around the world when they are making tires that are intended to be used in the U.S.

Here are the dimensional specifications used by valve manufacturers and some details on the smallest but potentially the most critical part on your RV, the valve core, that we covered previously.


 

 

 

 

 

 

They even include something as relatively insignificant as the height of the little pin that sticks out of the valve stem.









As you can see, there is a lot of engineering work involved in the valve stem system. If the proper stem is installed correctly, the system should operate with no problems for many tens of thousands of miles. But as with any system, if incorrect parts or improper method (torque) is used, you may have problems.